While a technical jacket WILL keep you quite warm, it has other downsides for daily wear (weather resistance, durability, etc) that may make it not a good fit for this guide. [–]achosid 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children). [–]LOTF1 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (5 children). LL Bean Baxter State $300, will be 25% off between now and black friday. 2b be sure to first use the search bar and check the sidebar before making a request. I don't know anything about the Abercrombie, honestly. I must have typo-ed in the spreadsheet. Therme in large was good but felt $200 too expensive, the Magnus is a joke at $550. Between the Abercrombie, LE expedition, and EB, which do you think has the longest length? At 500 it seems like a good choice. Insightful information for guys who know nothing on this topic (like me). Weight: 10.5 oz. In a vacuum, the coat seems like a good choice, it has nice features. In extreme cases, this can create a "tube" to look from. It isn't my cup of tea for the criteria I'm measuring against. Then I tried the M size and felt comfortable, not too tight, not too loose. The downsides of this coat are that it is synthetic insulation, and most of them use a shiny nylon shell which isn't as waterproof, and some think not as fashionable. Am I going to wax a coat several times a season? There are stacking sales where you can get almost 50% off if you get a coupon, during a sale, and sign up for the ll bean credit card. Best down jacket for everyday use Patagonia Down Sweater Hoody. The thickness of synthetic insulation is usually expressed as grams per square meter (note that this is NOT a measure of the total weight of the insulation in a jacket). Looking at a few of the other possibilities, they are all decent coats, but they are mostly short, and at each price point there are better choices for the conditions at hand. Very well built and with some really unique features like the pit vents. Ended up getting a B-9 Sherpa lined Parka from Abercrombie on clearance from the website for like $50 or something ridiculous like that due to double coupon codes. for only $100 more, should I just get the TEI 5 expedition for the sake of it? That seems more like a raincoat than a winter parka? The 4 I am deciding between are : But all of them can be found between 25-50% off between now and Black Friday. But, if I had to guess, my guess is that the Abercrombie is probably quite a bit warmer than the uniqlo, as it is using a fairly high power down fill, and at the list price (certainly compared to the uniqlo) they could easily afford to put enough down in to make it warmer. Any concerns about the warranty being 1 year instead of the lifetime that other companies offer? Patagonia Tres 3-in-1 Down Jacket. Also, the fabric should be windproof, so the warm air inside the parka isn't blown away. We used have bone pain inducing cold, now its garbage. But let’s be honest you can’t beat San Diego winters. Also that review was very informational. Quick Answer - The Best Down Jackets; Comparison Table - Best Down Jackets; Reviews - The Best Hiking Down Jackets. ive thought about it but considering the price, id prefer to have atleast try it out in person first. A bigger puffier coat will be warmer than a thinner coat with a high fill number. I was in the same boat as you and Decided to spring for it. ), no ruff. https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/9tvbch/review_ll_bean_parkas_baxter_state_vs_main/, [–]tommyboy9999 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (8 children). A few things that might be worthy to note: 2) You might be able to find it at www.thenorthfacerenewed.com for half price, 3) The handwarmer pockets are also accessible from inside the coat, [–]kaiomann 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child). See below for a TripleFat recommendation at $550, Triple Fat Eberly, $550. But there are coats that aren't cut with extra room inside. But yeah I live in the Midwest and I do pretty well with cold in general (still young so that’s probably why lol) so it doesn’t need to be the warmest jacket right now. Leave enough room for a sweater etc, but you don't want to be swimming in it, both for style and temp control. But if you want the warmest coat, you would need to buy one of their TEI 5 rated coats instead. Just for kicks, the Eberly I : 18.5oz of 600 fill down, no mini gloves I think, different fabric (presumably not as good as in the II). I believe Lands end is the longest by like 1/2 an inch. [–]kerrly 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child). I've gotten winter stuff as much as 70% off by mid January in the past, when they were replacing the inventory with summer clothes. On paper/photo it looks like it ticks all the feature boxes, and it has really good style, but its from a company that isn't known for making parkas, its not tested/rated in the same way LLB/EB/LE/etc are, it doesn't have the track record. I wish more brands made longer parkas (at least mid-thigh length). I know nearly 3000 people have been shot this year. - the JR&Bros just has better design imo. However there is a feature cost to this. They are really nicely made. The short answer is that the Jackson Glacier (along with the ll beans and lands end down parkas) are going to be significantly warmer. This one surely must be warm enough. Extremely misaligned but I guess that's what you get for that price. Goose also has a high premium, but is also the brand people use on real expeditions, when their life is on the line. [–]CaucusInferredBulk[S] 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children). LL Bean Baxter - I liked how it was adjustable around the chest and at the bottom. Sorta right. If you have a lot of disposable income, then the patagonia does have some nice features, but ones that you probably won't notice for urban use. Well I tend to wear lots of wool cardigans with nicer women’s T-shirt’s underneath as my winter uniform it seems. No regrets. I’m wondering if the difference in quality is worth it for urban use. Lands end is basically always 30% off, and 40% off very often. Baxter is slightly longer, otherwise I think they are pretty comparable. I mentioned it in the reply, that I think snaps are the worst possible option. Crew Nordic Parka from a couple of seasons ago. Probably not. and join one of thousands of communities. I’m on the hunt for winter clothing since we are moving from San Francisco to Tahoe so for what it’s worth here’s my take so far (6’ and 210lbs, athletic but aging build ): North Face: definitely seems like they are cashing in on brand, McMurdo felt cheap, Defdown parka maybe a good choice if on sale, Cryos GTX felt quality but $800...GTFO. [–]season3 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children). Thoughts? The mods are somewhat flexible with the rules as long as the OP explains in the comments. https://www.exxpozed.com/herren-jacken-fjallraven-m-greenland-winter-parka-modell-winter-2017-black-14b#!?variant=173747. They will both cost about the same ~600USD. It got down to below freezing a couple times this past winter and I wore it and worked really well. But you can probably get away with something even cheaper like : or a TEI 2 or 3 from canada goose, but that will cost just as much as the langford. Jackets vary in style, function, and protection, but no matter your intentions, there’s a jacket for you. Moose Knuckles seems fashion focused. Cost: $99; Best For: Car Camper, Day Hiker, Urban Hiker; The REI Down Jacket 650 2 is a model that receives improving tweaks year after year, and is the retailer’s excellent attempt at a well-made budget down jacket. Eddie Bauer also has very regular deep sales. Fine for middle germany as a reference. Made in Dawson City, Yukon. I finally have a reason to post! https://www.int-res.com/articles/cr2004/26/c026p077.pdf, [–]pucklermuskau 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (2 children). A good insulated hood can replace a hat in some cases. The SD is a decent parka, and is much less expensive than the MM (especially with the 60% sale that EB was just running), but overall the MM is warmer, higher quality, more features, but you are also paying a premium for those features and quality. Whether fashion or warmth is your priority, we’ve compiled a list of the best snowboard jackets out there for any rider looking to stay warm and dry on the mountain. So paradoxically, the rusk is warmer yet cheaper. Also, not sure if this helps anyone but after reading your review on LL bean MM parka, I wanted to try one at the store…and was able to try size M. They didn't have one so I talked to their customer support agent online and was told, MM Parka size M (in Black) are all sold out and won't be in stock till next FALL. On better coats they are insulated with fleece, or the pocket goes behind the jacket insulation. Its currently $281.35 but you can get 10% off with X-SALE18. 1 internal pocket. Thats almost 30 degrees colder than rain temps, that you are going to be walking in (and therefore generating heat), plus if you are wearing a sweater for the office or anything, thats just going to be crazy. [–]CaucusInferredBulk[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (9 children). Use your judgement and let your budget guide you. Lands end expedition – Again very warm from what they are mentioning and better design/style than the rusk. Also you are close to high end of prices here, so I would personally go with the GC/OSC/Triplefat if you are already paying this much. [–]CaucusInferredBulk[S] 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (3 children). The parka is quite long with the fishtail though, so your groin and hip area is a little more secure. Patagonia Topley: good looking and seems well made but sizing was weird. Never heard of the Trespass. 80/20 550 down. But unless you have a lot of disposable income, and really want the fashion, I don't think you need the goose. From heavy-duty parkas to down coats, these are the best winter jackets and coats for women for 2020, according to customer reviews. Check out Skookum Brand. Would you say that there is considerable quality difference between the three, or is it a question of style preference? [–]az0606 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (3 children). TIL - there's are LED bulbs engineered for actual long life (instead of exaggerated claims). Really all of these are going to be too warm, especially if you are walking any real distance, and are wearing anything heavier than a dress shirt. [–]pnishment 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago* (1 child). and during the sale only 100, both are 650 down, 33", storm cuffs + velcro. The rusk has the insulation from both the down, and the sherpa. [–]arsenismzero 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). If you have the money to burn, these seem really nice though. Is it because of its down fill (550) vs the price you pay for? Wore mine through Boston during that cold snap in December and it kept me warm in -10 easily, without any additional layering below other than a standard v neck sweater or flannel shirt. The langford is rated a 4 (-15C to -25C) (-5F to -13F), LLBean rates the Maine Mountain Parka from 5F to -45F. Or will all do a really good job to keep me warm? [–]PMme_slave_leia_pics 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children), [–]killahill79 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children), [–]Bigwhistle 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children), [–]butkusrules 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child), [–]killahill79 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children). Length Parkas are typically longer coats, extending to the upper thighs or lower. The short answer is that in real extreme temperatures like -40, expecting the parka alone to handle it isn't the right answer. This minimalist men’s parka from Arc’teryx has everything you would need to take on the most extreme Canadian winters. I've set up the email notification anyway, thanks for the guide, [–]AcquireKnowledge 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child). thorsen, $849, a bit better, longer, snap cuffs (possible internal too? https://www.ebay.ca/itm/372474420306?var=&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649, [–]CaucusInferredBulk[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago* (0 children), That particular coat is going to be relatively cooler than many others, it only has 100g of synthetic insulation. You could use NikWax Downproof to add some DWR yourself to the fabric and down though. REI’s original 650 Down Jacket was our top budget pick for years, and their latest “2.0” sticks to the winning formula. There is actual scientific research about how this works I was trying to comparison shop the Parkas in person (I have LL bean, Northface, Lands end, and high end dept stores all in the same mall) and only northface had any parkas in stock. Arctic bay : These seem even MORE expensive, but do seems to have some extra quality features. All of these have a tall version available for a few bucks more, which if it fits your arm length would be warmer for walking outside. You can find them on sale unlike CG, and are another Canadian made brand. The REI Co-Op 650 Down Hoodie 2.0 is another exceptionally light jacket at 11.9 ounces for a men's large but at the cost of warmth, as its 650 fill duck down insulation isn't as warm, there isn't a whole lot of it in the jacket, and it lacks crucial cold blocking features like hood and waist cinches. We break them down hiking jackets into four categories hard shell, down, soft shell, and mid-layer that way you can find the perfect hiking jacket. REAL COYOTE FUR RUFF. The light weight comes from having a thinner, less durable fabric. [–]CaucusInferredBulk[S] 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (5 children). I think its 40% right now. Fjallraven has some nice high end models (Arktis, Expedition) but they are big money, and I think heavier than the other options. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children), Awesome! But haven't been shopping there in a while so I don't know if they still do that. I tried size S and it was a good fit but felt too tight around the shoulders. Competing against the CG Langford (or TripleFat at $400 less! Arc’teryx: my wife was personally offended by the price of these. Real fur does a better job than synthetic, but is typically only in $500+ coats, and also may have ethical issues (YMMV). [–]TacitlyDaft 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children). Even dropping all the way down to the b-9, you only (further) lose the 3", velcro around the cuffs, switch to buttons on the storm flap (which some might say is nicer from fashion), and gaining gusseted arms. It's not super high end but I can walk around when it's -30 with blowing snow and not feel it at all above the waist. I think the only times they are not on sale is like 1x per month, just because it is illegal to advertise a sale price if its never at full price. Definitely stands out in a sea of muted tone Canada Goose. Turtleneck hood, not snorkel, but looks like a really thick gaiter too. I have also had a Canada Goose parka for 7 years now and it still looks new, not a loose feather or stitch. [–]xpaulotx 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child). The rusk is -54, the expedition is -34. Possibly there could be differences with breath-ability or durability, but I think they are pretty minor. 900 CAD is ~700 USD now? Thanks for following up! I’ve been living in Chicago for the past 6 years and have always been cold in this city. https://eu.riverisland.com/p/navy-faux-fur-lined-double-zip-hooded-parka-303361, [–]corsair5555 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (3 children), triple fat looks great, wish they were available in canada. Uniqlo Ultra Warm Parka. [–]Infamousx14 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children), [–]Iwantitall413 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children), I’m looking into some Black Friday deals and such and I’m waiting currently, [–]ScientificMeth0d 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). You can check inventory on llbean.com to see if your local one has them in or not. Its hood is not removable though. How warm are these Arcteryx coats? LLBean also has the Maine Mountain parka at $400 with a snorkel hood and a few other upgrades, and lands end also has the Rusk parka which is paradoxically warmer and cheaper than their expedition parka. I had purchased a Lands End Expedition Parka, but returned it for a different color. Its also much lighter weight than the expedition. Fill power: 800 Fill weight: 85g / 3oz The Patagonia Down Sweater Hoody is a practical all-rounder. Ill have to go back and review my notes later about why I dinged that one. It’s not even cold in Chicago anymore. To some degree, warm and slim fitting are somewhat mutually exclusive. I think North Face has made several design errors in their line of parkas. The real answer is get the fuck out of Chicago. If you need to wear business casual clothes at work (or want to wear similar weight stuff at school/work) then go warmer, because you are more likely to have to layer a heavier sweater or fleece under the uniqlo. All the jackets we've been talking about are 650 fill, but without knowing how many ounces, and what down/feather ratio, its tough to know which ones will be warmer. A lot of the time it involves force feeding and live plucking which is pretty messed up. That jacket was a godsend. On your spreadsheet, it say TNF Defdown Parka GTX is not recommended. But it is progress! will stop. Read through our list below to find out which one you should choose. These are more likely to be pure fashion, missing features that actually make them useful in bad weather, and if you can afford a coat like that you can also afford to do your own research on it, or afford multiple coats for different scenarios. All have dual handwarmers, with partial fleece lining. I have the B-9 because I'm a sucker for anything military green and I prefer its styling with the buttons and the absence of Velcro cuffs. Are you a rich college student? Lands end, llbean, and eddie bauer both offer "tall" editions that add a few inches for a 20-30$ more. Wouldn't recommend it for anywhere really cold though. your links will be dead in no time, [–]tommyboy9999 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (10 children). I'd consider something like this from LLBean. Just a quick note about the synthetic fjallravens. I had a north face down jacket. All are down. If you have a down jacket compared to a synthetic jacket of similar thickness/weight, then 99% of the time, the down jacket will be warmer. [–]arsenismzero 19 points20 points21 points 2 years ago (4 children). This RAB jacket has an 850 fill (compared to 675 in the first one). Arcteryx is know for their gear lasting a long time, and being amazing quality. Some turtlenecks collars also include a hood gaiter. I have a both a 650 hip length coat and and 800 fill longer coat. You can also stack that with a 15% discount for signing up for their credit card. FAQ: What is the environmental impact of different fabrics? There are no published ratings, nor enough details to calculate the rating for the uniqlo, but I'm really sure the Uniqlo is less warm. Edit: I’ve seen them on sale at East Dane and Bloomingdales in the 400ish-$550 range depending on the color. Ordering advice: If you want a slimmer fit, I'd order a size down. You're going to die for sure. Last Updated November, 2020: We’ve updated our guide of the best synthetic down jackets for Winter 2021. It doesn't have as many pockets, its cuff is just elastic instead of knit, etc. (though personally I would probably take the eberly II over the Arcteryx at even 100 cheaper). For some of the major Parka manufacturers (Canada Goose, Fjallraven, TripleFat, EB, etc) , they have a TON of models, so only representative models are included. The MM has a thick knit cuff under the snaps. Just like with boots, I can recommend investing in an LL Bean coat, mine has lasted for 10 years so far. Products that are well-made and durable (even if they won't last a lifetime) are accepted. On some other parkas it also changes the arm length. Will try it later this weekend. Warmth and loft are pretty closely related, and loft is the opposite of slim. I am not familiar with the other brands. [–]Iwantitall413 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (8 children), Thanks for all the input. How much insulation do you need in a jacket? This can also be found deeply on sale. Note that pictures of GC are not reliable methods of authentication, the counterfeiters are good enough that they can fool CG customer support now. [–]mista_fresh 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). They're called "Dubai lamps". Right now I’m apprehensive about spending a lot because first I want to get a sense of how much I’ll use these items. No hood or removable is ideal , thanks, [–]CaucusInferredBulk[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (5 children), How long is "long", and how much do you want to spend, [–]TacitlyDaft 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (4 children). Many of the other parkas on the market are heavily inspired by the original N3B. I personally used my 650 fill more. Not looking to purchase a Canada Goose as I already have a similar styled jacket (but not as warm), and I don't wanna spend more than $400-500. I'm surprised about the lengths, at the large sizes the lengths of the two parkas was very similar. fur is such overkill for an urban environment. Sometimes the hood will have a gaiter for the neck but this is the worst of the three options. The difficulty is that not all jackets will have the same weight of insulation, so as you say it’s not a good measure of absolute warmth. Scoop tail seems less pronounced. They make good stuff, though I know nothing of their warranty. [–]throwawayBeachball1 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (2 children). Especially if you are on the not-rich side of things, I would say the additional cost of the patagonia over the sale price of the llb/le parkas is not worth it, certainly not worth going into CC debt over. BEST FOR: THE ANY-WEATHER EXPLORER; 686 Ether Down Thermagraph. And among these brands only Uniqlo and Patagonia seem to carry XS. I just wrote up a big comparison of those two that you might be interested in. Many of the best hiking jackets will meet all these specifications and more, depending on the climate. Then again I’m never the one in the office bitching about it being too cold since I tend to wear appropriate layers. I also am thinking of purchasing a surplus military NB-3 to compare since they're about the same price but you can find them for $100 or less on ebay and I keep hearing good things about those, [–]IDGAFOS13 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children), you should use imgur for the photos. That being said, though overpriced, the Canada Goose jackets are excellent and the coyote fur is actually functional; try wearing a synthetic fur ruff in a snow storm and see how much ice and snow sticks. It’s very warm and does the job well in those below 0 days. It also doesn't have any water proofing on the fabric, nor on the down, which means if the jacket gets wet or is in humid conditions, its going to lose a lot of its insulation value. Insightful comments and posts from the community about fashion related topic, discussion, or well, whatever. [–]CaucusInferredBulk[S] 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child). 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